Comments on: Al Gore, An Inconvenient Truth, and My Views http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/al-gore-an-inconvenient-truth-and/ Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:29:51 -0600 hourly 1 By: kyndred http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/al-gore-an-inconvenient-truth-and/comment-page-1/#comment-2967 kyndred Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:48:32 +0000 http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/al-gore-an-inconvenient-truth-and-my-views/#comment-2967 albert gore u have inspired me with your movie i will for sure do something about it albert gore u have inspired me with your movie
i will for sure do something about it

]]> By: Mike Winkler http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/al-gore-an-inconvenient-truth-and/comment-page-1/#comment-937 Mike Winkler Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:55:42 +0000 http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/al-gore-an-inconvenient-truth-and-my-views/#comment-937 I like the fact that a great many of the bloggers herein recognize that most of green talk is really just puffery. We will be dependent on coal until it is depleted and Nuclear will provide the lion's share of the rest of our energy needs. The rest is, well, inconsequential. When the juice isn't worth the squeeze...,you know the rest. I wrote a somewhat unpopular book about the tax farms (IE Wind energy). I shouldn't cut myself short, the book is completely unpopular, and equally failing to sell. I take that as success, because it is chock full of the facts nobody wants to know. Anyway, keep up the good blogging and turn the lights on, too. We need that peak load. I like the fact that a great many of the bloggers herein recognize that most of green talk is really just puffery. We will be dependent on coal until it is depleted and Nuclear will provide the lion’s share of the rest of our energy needs. The rest is, well, inconsequential. When the juice isn’t worth the squeeze…,you know the rest.
I wrote a somewhat unpopular book about the tax farms (IE Wind energy). I shouldn’t cut myself short, the book is completely unpopular, and equally failing to sell. I take that as success, because it is chock full of the facts nobody wants to know.
Anyway, keep up the good blogging and turn the lights on, too. We need that peak load.

]]> By: J.L.Belmar http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/al-gore-an-inconvenient-truth-and/comment-page-1/#comment-918 J.L.Belmar Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:05:19 +0000 http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/al-gore-an-inconvenient-truth-and-my-views/#comment-918 Al Gore I condemn you! I declare you guilty as charged for promoting and provoking terror amongst childhood in the world by spreading your global warming threats. Your “Doomsday” is nothing else but a "convenient truth" for your political and economical purposes; therefore, I declare you guilty of actions, which violate the most basic rights of human kind: peace of mind. José Luis Belmar Mexican and citizen of the world. Al Gore

I condemn you!

I declare you guilty as charged for promoting and provoking terror amongst childhood in the world by spreading your global warming threats.

Your “Doomsday” is nothing else but a “convenient truth” for your political and economical purposes; therefore, I declare you guilty of actions, which violate the most basic rights of human kind: peace of mind.

José Luis Belmar
Mexican
and citizen of the world.

]]> By: Curtis http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/al-gore-an-inconvenient-truth-and/comment-page-1/#comment-103 Curtis Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:42:53 +0000 http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/al-gore-an-inconvenient-truth-and-my-views/#comment-103 Al Gore's response to his own "inconvenient truth" is outrageous. Simply because the man has bought into green energy as an "offset" does nothing for his case. It's as if he is telling us that he can continue to run up his credit card bill because he is continually making deposits into his savings account. I say WAKE UP! Just because you've "offset" your energy consumption does not replace the fact that you are still using the energy from fossil fuels. And in the case of fossil fuels that are not replaceable it's a credit card bill can NEVER be repaid. But don't worry...just look at my savings account balance. Please. If Mr. Gore does not want to be considered a hypocrite he needs to live by his own advice. Sure he uses (one of) his homes as an office as well. I don't know about anyone else, but I bet if you took the energy most of us use at the office during a year and added that to our home electric bills it still wouldn't come close to the 20x average that Al and Tipper are running up! Al Gore’s response to his own “inconvenient truth” is outrageous. Simply because the man has bought into green energy as an “offset” does nothing for his case. It’s as if he is telling us that he can continue to run up his credit card bill because he is continually making deposits into his savings account. I say WAKE UP! Just because you’ve “offset” your energy consumption does not replace the fact that you are still using the energy from fossil fuels. And in the case of fossil fuels that are not replaceable it’s a credit card bill can NEVER be repaid. But don’t worry…just look at my savings account balance. Please. If Mr. Gore does not want to be considered a hypocrite he needs to live by his own advice. Sure he uses (one of) his homes as an office as well. I don’t know about anyone else, but I bet if you took the energy most of us use at the office during a year and added that to our home electric bills it still wouldn’t come close to the 20x average that Al and Tipper are running up!

]]> By: Steve http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/al-gore-an-inconvenient-truth-and/comment-page-1/#comment-102 Steve Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:18:42 +0000 http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/al-gore-an-inconvenient-truth-and-my-views/#comment-102 Ethan - I have a 1993 Ford F 250 4X4 that gets about 12 mpg and it has enough power to pull my 21 foot boat to the lake. The boat burns about 5 gallons per hour. I drive my Ford about 1500 miles a year and mostly use the 5 HP trolling motor on the boat. I can, with clear conscience, use my Ford and boat once in a while thanks to the carbon offset I get with my 2001 Corolla commuter car :-) Ethan – I have a 1993 Ford F 250 4X4 that gets about 12 mpg and it has enough power to pull my 21 foot boat to the lake. The boat burns about 5 gallons per hour. I drive my Ford about 1500 miles a year and mostly use the 5 HP trolling motor on the boat. I can, with clear conscience, use my Ford and boat once in a while thanks to the carbon offset I get with my 2001 Corolla commuter car :-)

]]> By: Ethan K. http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/al-gore-an-inconvenient-truth-and/comment-page-1/#comment-100 Ethan K. Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:17:20 +0000 http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/al-gore-an-inconvenient-truth-and-my-views/#comment-100 Steve, Underpowered Toyota? I thought that only Fords were underpowered? : ) Steve,

Underpowered Toyota? I thought that only Fords were underpowered? : )

]]> By: Steve http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/al-gore-an-inconvenient-truth-and/comment-page-1/#comment-99 Steve Thu, 01 Mar 2007 05:13:57 +0000 http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/al-gore-an-inconvenient-truth-and-my-views/#comment-99 Al Gore is a "do as I say, not as I do" sort of guy. Whupeee he drives a Civic. Has a solar panel. Uses 25 times as much electricity as me every year. He's important, I'm not. I'll turn down my thermostat another notch,be part of his carbon offset, and freeze my a*** so he can continue to live in luxury. Give me a break. He's a sincere hypocrite with an agenda that's making him money and making him famous. No one knew his name when he was VP. Some politicians come from Hollywood, others go there when their political careers are over. I'm far more of an environmentalist than Big Al. I live in the woods, heat my house with corn or wood, and drive a pathetically underpowered Toyota. I have flourescent lights in all five rooms of my shack. I do it because I am cheap, not because Al Gore "woke me up". Al Gore is a “do as I say, not as I do” sort of guy. Whupeee he drives a Civic. Has a solar panel. Uses 25 times as much electricity as me every year.

He’s important, I’m not. I’ll turn down my thermostat another notch,be part of his carbon offset, and freeze my a*** so he can continue to live in luxury. Give me a break. He’s a sincere hypocrite with an agenda that’s making him money and making him famous. No one knew his name when he was VP.

Some politicians come from Hollywood, others go there when their political careers are over.

I’m far more of an environmentalist than Big Al. I live in the woods, heat my house with corn or wood, and drive a pathetically underpowered Toyota. I have flourescent lights in all five rooms of my shack. I do it because I am cheap, not because Al Gore “woke me up”.

]]> By: Tod Brilliant http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/al-gore-an-inconvenient-truth-and/comment-page-1/#comment-98 Tod Brilliant Thu, 01 Mar 2007 03:25:11 +0000 http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/al-gore-an-inconvenient-truth-and-my-views/#comment-98 Peter said: Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain — and most fools do. Clearly Peter implies that ONLY fools criticize, condemn and complain. A bit of an erroneous position. The quote was meant to come off as a nugget of wisdom betowed upon us by mediocre industrialist. Pure foolishness, this. Peter said:

Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain — and most fools do.

Clearly Peter implies that ONLY fools criticize, condemn and complain. A bit of an erroneous position.

The quote was meant to come off as a nugget of wisdom betowed upon us by mediocre industrialist. Pure foolishness, this.

]]> By: LM http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/al-gore-an-inconvenient-truth-and/comment-page-1/#comment-96 LM Thu, 01 Mar 2007 01:54:52 +0000 http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/al-gore-an-inconvenient-truth-and-my-views/#comment-96 In this case, I say we shoot the messenger but not the message. I believe Al Gore is sincere. It's been his one big issue since before he even became VP. But does he do enough? No, so it hurts the message. He's rich, so his responsibility should be way above the average American's. He also hasn't made very many sacrifices. Paying more money for electricity doesn't mean much when you can easily afford it. Or giving slide presentations when you already have all the time in the world (i.e. no real job). As for the TCPR, I make it a personal point to take anyone who bashes the messenger without tackling the bigger issues with a grain of salt. It's obiviously political. Unfortunately, in the end, looking like a hypocrite hurts the message more than any amount of "carbon offsets" you buy. I mean, how many Christians would there be today if Jesus lived in a mansion overlooking Jersulem? And one more thing: Gore didn't work hard for his money, he inherited it. In this case, I say we shoot the messenger but not the message. I believe Al Gore is sincere. It’s been his one big issue since before he even became VP. But does he do enough? No, so it hurts the message. He’s rich, so his responsibility should be way above the average American’s. He also hasn’t made very many sacrifices. Paying more money for electricity doesn’t mean much when you can easily afford it. Or giving slide presentations when you already have all the time in the world (i.e. no real job). As for the TCPR, I make it a personal point to take anyone who bashes the messenger without tackling the bigger issues with a grain of salt. It’s obiviously political. Unfortunately, in the end, looking like a hypocrite hurts the message more than any amount of “carbon offsets” you buy. I mean, how many Christians would there be today if Jesus lived in a mansion overlooking Jersulem? And one more thing: Gore didn’t work hard for his money, he inherited it.

]]> By: Gunter http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/al-gore-an-inconvenient-truth-and/comment-page-1/#comment-95 Gunter Thu, 01 Mar 2007 01:38:30 +0000 http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/al-gore-an-inconvenient-truth-and-my-views/#comment-95 Gore has already "let some lodgers in." He has a live-in security detail and a fulltime staff. But you bring up a good point. Brothers and sisters, when are are we going to actually join the world and get with the program? The environmental movement will not remake society overnight. It will take a generation or two to really make things happen in the West. We need to meet people where they are. We're not Jesus, calling his disciples to sell their worldly possessions and follow after him. And people generally won't, even if we ask. Not are corporations going away anytime soon. I'm sorry if you don't like Wal-Mart messing up your cozy little neighborhood co-op by getting into organic goods, but The People (tm) shop at big-box stores. Let Wal-Mart sell organics and get healthier food to the masses. The Gores live in a house large enough to be considered vulgar. But they probably like it, they can afford it, and they're doing what they can to reduce their footprint. That's enough. The Revolution *will* be televised, and you'll not be in a starring role if you're busy browbeating the cast and audience. A step at a time, people ... Gore has already “let some lodgers in.” He has a live-in security detail and a fulltime staff.

But you bring up a good point.

Brothers and sisters, when are are we going to actually join the world and get with the program? The environmental movement will not remake society overnight. It will take a generation or two to really make things happen in the West.

We need to meet people where they are. We’re not Jesus, calling his disciples to sell their worldly possessions and follow after him. And people generally won’t, even if we ask.

Not are corporations going away anytime soon. I’m sorry if you don’t like Wal-Mart messing up your cozy little neighborhood co-op by getting into organic goods, but The People ™ shop at big-box stores. Let Wal-Mart sell organics and get healthier food to the masses.

The Gores live in a house large enough to be considered vulgar. But they probably like it, they can afford it, and they’re doing what they can to reduce their footprint. That’s enough.

The Revolution *will* be televised, and you’ll not be in a starring role if you’re busy browbeating the cast and audience. A step at a time, people …

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