Comments on: An inconvenient discovery http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/an-inconvenient-discovery/ Sat, 04 Feb 2012 23:04:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Cat Laine http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/an-inconvenient-discovery/comment-page-1/#comment-97 Cat Laine Thu, 01 Mar 2007 02:05:06 +0000 http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/an-inconvenient-discovery/#comment-97 20 times the national average, eh? Next they'll be saying that the Goracle eats babies and kick old ladies down stairs. If he were to be a hypocrite, I can't say that I'm fussed. Loads more people are paying attention to global warming/energy conservation and his activism has played a big role. On average, he's making the world a better place. I wonder if there's a plausible explanation like he's running mondo servers in his basement or, more likely, has a helluva lot more people running through his house because he's entertaining/hosting the masses. I suspect he is probably not running around his mansion cackling, with all the lights on while simultaneously leaving fridge and freezer doors open. 20 times the national average, eh? Next they’ll be saying that the Goracle eats babies and kick old ladies down stairs.

If he were to be a hypocrite, I can’t say that I’m fussed. Loads more people are paying attention to global warming/energy conservation and his activism has played a big role. On average, he’s making the world a better place.

I wonder if there’s a plausible explanation like he’s running mondo servers in his basement or, more likely, has a helluva lot more people running through his house because he’s entertaining/hosting the masses. I suspect he is probably not running around his mansion cackling, with all the lights on while simultaneously leaving fridge and freezer doors open.

]]> By: LM http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/an-inconvenient-discovery/comment-page-1/#comment-94 LM Thu, 01 Mar 2007 01:31:07 +0000 http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/an-inconvenient-discovery/#comment-94 I agree global warming is an important issue. I just don't trust Gore (or most politicians) so it's easy to not trust the message. And that's unfortunate because then we the people miss the point. One more thing: carbon offsets. They're bogus. No amount of money should ever make up for not doing the right thing. I agree global warming is an important issue. I just don’t trust Gore (or most politicians) so it’s easy to not trust the message. And that’s unfortunate because then we the people miss the point. One more thing: carbon offsets. They’re bogus. No amount of money should ever make up for not doing the right thing.

]]> By: Tim_Kalish http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/an-inconvenient-discovery/comment-page-1/#comment-92 Tim_Kalish Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:17:22 +0000 http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/an-inconvenient-discovery/#comment-92 JC - Stop writing so much! You are wasting pixels...ha ha ha ha Maybe if everyone stopped blogging and commenting, global warming will go away!?!? Sorry guy, but I think you had a good point until the background color issue. My website is completely white- it is a style preference. I would not dare to give my URL cuz I bashed Gore about two months ago. I had enough greenies on my site complainin' to know never to post on Hugg again. To the writer, I actually agree with the allegations against Gore. I think he is an overtalked sleazy politician. Just my opinion. JC –

Stop writing so much! You are wasting pixels…ha ha ha ha

Maybe if everyone stopped blogging and commenting, global warming will go away!?!? Sorry guy, but I think you had a good point until the background color issue. My website is completely white- it is a style preference. I would not dare to give my URL cuz I bashed Gore about two months ago. I had enough greenies on my site complainin’ to know never to post on Hugg again.

To the writer, I actually agree with the allegations against Gore. I think he is an overtalked sleazy politician. Just my opinion.

]]> By: JC http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/an-inconvenient-discovery/comment-page-1/#comment-90 JC Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:57:19 +0000 http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/an-inconvenient-discovery/#comment-90 Better Gore burns that power on his activities to stop global warming than some yahoo in an SUV. Also, this web site uses a WHITE background color. A real energy waster on monitors. By using a darker color, green, grey, or red, you practically cut energy use by the monitor in half. I think you can chase yourself into a circle on this issue. Going after Gore about it is stupid. Better Gore burns that power on his activities to stop global warming than some yahoo in an SUV.
Also, this web site uses a WHITE background color. A real energy waster on monitors. By using a darker color, green, grey, or red, you practically cut energy use by the monitor in half.
I think you can chase yourself into a circle on this issue. Going after Gore about it is stupid.

]]> By: Chris Jalkotzy http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/an-inconvenient-discovery/comment-page-1/#comment-87 Chris Jalkotzy Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:07:22 +0000 http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/an-inconvenient-discovery/#comment-87 Unfortunately its not about what we in the "in" community think, but how it affects people on the "edge" of changing the way they do things. For them change is inconvenient, takes time and effort. Anything that reduces the potential that they will tip into the new behaviour reduces the effect of Al Gores message, which is a darn shame. We are all human, as others have said. But when you start on the path of a crusader, look yourself in the mirror and change those things that are going to reduce the effect of your effort. This was one thing that didn't have to happen. Unfortunately its not about what we in the “in” community think, but how it affects people on the “edge” of changing the way they do things. For them change is inconvenient, takes time and effort. Anything that reduces the potential that they will tip into the new behaviour reduces the effect of Al Gores message, which is a darn shame. We are all human, as others have said. But when you start on the path of a crusader, look yourself in the mirror and change those things that are going to reduce the effect of your effort. This was one thing that didn’t have to happen.

]]> By: T-H.P. http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/an-inconvenient-discovery/comment-page-1/#comment-86 T-H.P. Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:00:48 +0000 http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/an-inconvenient-discovery/#comment-86 1.5 times or double the national average electricity consumption I could stomach, but more than 20 times?? Come on here people. Does this not scream the word "ridiculous"? Sure it's great if he purchases green offsets for this power, but think how much greater impact he could have if he lived in an average sized home (which in the US is still massive, I live in a 1150 sq. ft. home which is plenty big). Us North Americans are gluttens of excess, particularly cheap energy, and Al Gore is leading the pack. It is leaders like Ghandi and Mother Teresa who have the biggest impacts long-term, those who practice what they preach. I agree Gore has had a huge positive impact, but if this is an example of our greatest heroes of today, how sad for our culture. It's easy to preach when you are insulated from the consquences of your message. 1.5 times or double the national average electricity consumption I could stomach, but more than 20 times?? Come on here people. Does this not scream the word “ridiculous”? Sure it’s great if he purchases green offsets for this power, but think how much greater impact he could have if he lived in an average sized home (which in the US is still massive, I live in a 1150 sq. ft. home which is plenty big). Us North Americans are gluttens of excess, particularly cheap energy, and Al Gore is leading the pack. It is leaders like Ghandi and Mother Teresa who have the biggest impacts long-term, those who practice what they preach. I agree Gore has had a huge positive impact, but if this is an example of our greatest heroes of today, how sad for our culture. It’s easy to preach when you are insulated from the consquences of your message.

]]> By: David http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/an-inconvenient-discovery/comment-page-1/#comment-85 David Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:56:49 +0000 http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/an-inconvenient-discovery/#comment-85 Comparing gore to the average American is just stupid. How about comparing his energy use to the average celebrity? Also part of the reason gore has been able to win over people is that he is not a pot smokeing back to nature hippy. He needs to be able to impress some very rich people to strengthen his message, and in our modern consumerism based society, its hard to impress billionaire business men without a big house. A house with 20 rooms consumes a lot of power. Comparing gore to the average American is just stupid. How about comparing his energy use to the average celebrity? Also part of the reason gore has been able to win over people is that he is not a pot smokeing back to nature hippy. He needs to be able to impress some very rich people to strengthen his message, and in our modern consumerism based society, its hard to impress billionaire business men without a big house. A house with 20 rooms consumes a lot of power.

]]> By: Christina http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/an-inconvenient-discovery/comment-page-1/#comment-82 Christina Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:34:25 +0000 http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/an-inconvenient-discovery/#comment-82 I think it makes sense that if you are going to be spreading a message and if transportation is a part of that, it can be difficult to keep your consumption low. He even talked about flying being so terrible for the earth, but he's probably stretched so thin, it wouldn't be realistic to drive. I've noticed a great change in people around me who I never thought would come around to see that we really do need to change our ways and I know it's because they've seen the film. I can't complain when the message has impacted so many tight fisted people who could never have come around will all that he presented. I certainly don't see him as being a perfect role model but no one is and we all just need to do what we can within our own bounds. For him, it's travelling to spread a very important message. For me, it's taking the bus to school and work and starting a business that reflects my beliefs. I think it makes sense that if you are going to be spreading a message and if transportation is a part of that, it can be difficult to keep your consumption low. He even talked about flying being so terrible for the earth, but he’s probably stretched so thin, it wouldn’t be realistic to drive.

I’ve noticed a great change in people around me who I never thought would come around to see that we really do need to change our ways and I know it’s because they’ve seen the film. I can’t complain when the message has impacted so many tight fisted people who could never have come around will all that he presented.

I certainly don’t see him as being a perfect role model but no one is and we all just need to do what we can within our own bounds. For him, it’s travelling to spread a very important message. For me, it’s taking the bus to school and work and starting a business that reflects my beliefs.

]]> By: Tom Z. http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/an-inconvenient-discovery/comment-page-1/#comment-76 Tom Z. Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:21:17 +0000 http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/an-inconvenient-discovery/#comment-76 Jon, I spoke to a friend of mine in the Tenn. state government, and he said that nobody pays much attention to the The Tennessee Center for Policy Research. He said they are extremely politically biased at times. They are a think tank of sorts, but I don't see how sitting around trying to ruin anyone's reputation is helpful, or a part of their job. George, that is great how Mr. Gore brought change in your life. I think he woke up a lot of people and we should be thanking him for it. Jon,

I spoke to a friend of mine in the Tenn. state government, and he said that nobody pays much attention to the The Tennessee Center for Policy Research. He said they are extremely politically biased at times. They are a think tank of sorts, but I don’t see how sitting around trying to ruin anyone’s reputation is helpful, or a part of their job.

George, that is great how Mr. Gore brought change in your life. I think he woke up a lot of people and we should be thanking him for it.

]]> By: Tom Z. http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/an-inconvenient-discovery/comment-page-1/#comment-73 Tom Z. Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:46:05 +0000 http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/an-inconvenient-discovery/#comment-73 Every time someone runs for office, or considers it, we can expect this to happen. If someone were to look impartially at who Mr. Gore is as an environmentalist, he checks out. The Tennessee Center for Policy Research owes him an apology for trying to paint a very ugly picture, when in fact, they left out the most important facts. To me, that is the lowest form of slander. My response is <a href="http://www.energyrefuge.com/blog/al-gore-an-inconvenient-truth-and/" rel="nofollow">here</a>, Ethan. Every time someone runs for office, or considers it, we can expect this to happen. If someone were to look impartially at who Mr. Gore is as an environmentalist, he checks out. The Tennessee Center for Policy Research owes him an apology for trying to paint a very ugly picture, when in fact, they left out the most important facts. To me, that is the lowest form of slander. My response is here, Ethan.

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